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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:16 pm 
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Ok, this is now available and seems to be working fine on my offline tests. Underneath your youth squad heading there is now a check-box which allows you to have your youth team selected for you by the computer. It's selected by default because of the mess that the squad would get in if you forgot or just ignored your youth team (described in the other thread). If you WANT to do your own youth selections, turn off the checkbox otherwise it'll continually pick your 'best' available players.

I've done quite a few tests and it seems to be working well, even when I try to trick it. It will try to play a sensible formation even if you don't have enough players in that position, but that shouldn't happen and quite honestly, if you're rolling with nothing but 50 goalkeepers and it starts playing goalkeepers in defence, well.... don't blame me, it's actually done a good job of sifting through your madness :P It 'should' now pick sensibly. If you have, for example 3 defenders in your youth squad and it tries to pick 4, it 'should' pick your 3 designated defenders first, and then search through the rest of the squad for another, which is correct.

I've also rebalanced the weightings within the positions. You were right Rich in that 2x wasn't enough. Even 3x wasn't quite right. I had a situation where it was correctly picking most of the defenders (as designated by me) but when it came to finding a 4th defender from my huge list of attackers, I wasn't really happy with it's choice. It was opting for some super-fast guy (w/cl speed) every time and I'm fairly sure that it's because his speed is so high. That 'might' be the right choice but there was a player with better tackling and heading that I personally would have preferred, so I balanced it to 10x the main ratings.

As I said in the other thread, testing can be a pain but I've done quite a bit and it seems fine. Hopefully it's at least 'working' but as usual, keep me informed if you see errors/problems/issues. It should start from tonight if you don't uncheck the 'auto-pick' box.


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:22 pm 
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And to point out, the new balancing should now come into play in all situations and all squads, including subbing and if you don't fill in your squad correctly (where it then tries to fill in the gaps). So with subbing, if you have a 3/10/3/10/3/3 defender, a 10/10/10/10/10/10 midfielder and a 10/5/10/5/10/10 defender it should pick the 'correct' one now, which is the 3/10/3/10/3/3 guy because he's a) Designated by you as a defender and b) Better in defence than the other defender, even though not such a good player overall.

To re-iterate, that's both elements of the weighting changed today. The designated position is now 1Mx and the main ratings are now 10x, compared to 0 and 2x before.

These might need tweaking, but hopefully you guys can help to keep your eye on it and help tweak it to the correct values (fingers crossed these are already the best values).


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:45 pm 
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Re the check box, if you pick a team with this still ticked will it re-choose your team,ie do you NEED to uncheck before choosing and can you dip in and out ,choose yourself one week then check the box next for the AI to pick?

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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:54 pm 
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Yes, you can change it whenever you want. If it's ticked when the matches play, the computer will ignore your selections and completely repick the team from scratch. If it's unticked, then it'll accept your selections and only fill in any gaps that you've left. If for example you were going away and wanted to pick your own team for the next match, then you want the computer to pick after that, you'll either have to tick it now and have the computer pick until you change it, or pick yourself and leave it unticked. It'll then take your selections and just fill in gaps if players are lost due to injury/contract/suspension. Obviously the game is more accessible than previous versions (i.e I think you can play it on a phone) so hopefully people won't often get into that situation, also this only affects youth/reserve teams and either leaving it ticked or unticked for a few weeks shouldn't really cause any disastrous situations. Leaving it unticked for 70 weeks as a lot of us did (effectively) recently will lead to strange line-ups but if you're not looking at it for 70 weeks, you really should just tick it :P


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:57 pm 
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Cheers Glynn,gives us the control/or not that we want :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 6:15 am 
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Probably just me but I cannot see a tick box

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 9:30 am 
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Dave Shepherd wrote:
Probably just me but I cannot see a tick box


Its inbetween your 1st team squad and youth team squad, Dave :)

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:36 am 
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That's Mike's way of saying it is you Dave ;-)

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DEP EL CELTICO.........................WPL37
WASCISCO RED SOX...................WPL43
ZIASTE NEQUENO.......................WPL24
CASTLE ROCK FURIES..................WPL31
AYRHEAD..................................WPL25
FENWAY VALIANTS ....................WPL14
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 4:39 pm 
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:)

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Southampton Sity (OPAL15) SLFA Cup winners S20 Joosters winner S24 Div 3 champs S25
Sylvan Lake (OPAL17) Div 1 champs S19,S29 SLFA cup winners S32
The Islanders (OPAL25)Yth Lge champs S25
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Yth Lge champs S24 Joosters winners S31
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:35 pm 
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I was looking for it on the squad selection page where I would have expected it :)

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Inter Southampton (OPAL24) Yth Lge champs S9,S31,S32 SLFA cup winners S15
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Southampton Sity (OPAL15) SLFA Cup winners S20 Joosters winner S24 Div 3 champs S25
Sylvan Lake (OPAL17) Div 1 champs S19,S29 SLFA cup winners S32
The Islanders (OPAL25)Yth Lge champs S25
Southern Vipers (OPAL48)
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 7:20 pm 
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I expected it there too :-)

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DEP EL CELTICO.........................WPL37
WASCISCO RED SOX...................WPL43
ZIASTE NEQUENO.......................WPL24
CASTLE ROCK FURIES..................WPL31
AYRHEAD..................................WPL25
FENWAY VALIANTS ....................WPL14
OSSUS STELLA SEI.....................ELZ56
REVELSTONE..(C 05/6, 08/9)........RH15....(175T)
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:24 am 
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It can be moved there easily enough. I thought it made more sense with the squad but I see your point(s).


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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:23 pm 
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Well I found it easy enough :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:08 pm 
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If you can find it Woody, I'd say it's fine :P


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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:32 pm 
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:lol: :lol:

I think everyone found it ok (bar Dave), just that it feels more intuitive to have it in the squad selection rather than squad listing area

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CHARSCOT WANDERERS.........WPL1
DEP EL CELTICO.........................WPL37
WASCISCO RED SOX...................WPL43
ZIASTE NEQUENO.......................WPL24
CASTLE ROCK FURIES..................WPL31
AYRHEAD..................................WPL25
FENWAY VALIANTS ....................WPL14
OSSUS STELLA SEI.....................ELZ56
REVELSTONE..(C 05/6, 08/9)........RH15....(175T)
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